H.B. 83 Imitation Firearm Amendments

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The bill would make it an infraction to knowingly possess an altered toy gun, such as an airsoft or pellet gun made to look like a real firearm, in a public place. Officers would use discretion, and a first violation would typically result in a verbal warning and education rather than a penalty.

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• 9 yes, 0 no, 3 absentHouse Public Utilities and Energy Committee: vote, which it did not pass · Jan 26, 2026Who voted how

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• Jan 26, 2026 House Public Utilities and Energy Committee▶ Watch
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  1. Committee chair13:28

     HB 0 0 8 3 with representative, representative Nu. So you go ahead and come up to the stand there, and, uh, when you're ready, uh, just speak into the mic and identify yourself and make your presentation, and we'll go from there.

  2. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu13:51

     Thank you so much, chair and thank you committee for the time today. Um, I'm Jake Fitz, house District 30 West Valley City. Always happy to represent now colleagues. Imagine with me, if you will, a picturesque day at the local park or playground with your kids or your grandkids. Um, everyone's having a good time until the fun and relaxation is suddenly disrupted, disturbed by someone frantically yelling, they've got guns. You know, after the commotion dies down and law enforcement has secured the situation, it's determined that, uh, in fact, uh, the firearms in question are toy guns. Uh, and there are essentially children minors, uh, in the playground who are playing with guns that have been, uh, toy guns that have been altered to look like real guns. And some of these really do look like real guns. You know, in the summer of 2024, a high school student named Sophie, uh, came before, uh, the legislature and actually addressed, um, this issue. Uh, she had previously come to the West Valley City Council when I was a member of the city council there, uh, and had raised this issue. And I asked our law enforcement locally, our parks and recs department, how often is this happening? Is, is this a one off that Sophie ran into and, you know, when she was out with her friends, or is this something that's pretty frequent? Uh, and she and her classmates actually came up here to the hill, uh, to talk about the increase in the incidents of these type of situations in their community, in our community, involving, again, toy guns and kids, um, that had been altered to look like real guns. Uh, about a year ago, actually on February 1st, um, of 2025, uh, I received a call from the chair of the House Law Enforcement Committee, um, and criminal justice committee who, uh, had received a call from concerned parents in his district, uh, and told me about an incident at that local high school in his area, um, that actually, uh, ended up with some, uh, lawfully carrying, uh, adults, parents and bystanders who were this close to discharging their weapons in a situation that they thought, um, needed some self defense there. Uh, and the police response was equally heated, as you can imagine. Now, we don't fault, uh, our police officers, uh, for their response. Uh, we should err on the side of caution, uh, at all times. And, um, treating toy guns that look like real guns as if they were real firearms is probably, um, an inappropriate response for sure. So we're not arguing that. But, um, the bill that's before you, for your consideration here, uh, is really one that's meant to let kids be kids, um, and to lead with an educative approach rather than a punitive approach. And what that means is, uh, in a situation like the ones that I just described, which are happening in communities, uh, around the state, um, as I talked with, uh, members of that, of the Law enforcement committee, criminal justice committee, uh, the police chief of West Valley City and Farr West and other, um, officers from local police departments, we tried to come up with a really common sense, uh, measure that would address this issue without being super punitive. We, um, want to allow kids to be kids, but we also want to educate them as well as families, uh, about the dangers, uh, that could potentially arise from this situation, and find a way to deter that without draconian punishments. And so, uh, the bill is before you now, um, which is one that, uh, has been, uh, actually, uh, vetted with other committees, um, in our previous legislative session, uh, is really meant to be a common sense deterrent, uh, one that, um, makes it an infraction on your, so the first time, if this happens, uh, and again, you'll see the, the wording is also very, um, clear here. Uh, this is a knowing offense, so you know that it's wrong. Uh, we have, we have these markings that are federally, uh, regulated in terms of, you know, like the orange tip, uh, on the end of some of these, uh, guns. And there's whole code around that. I'm not talking about changing any of that, but simply allowing our law enforcement, the opportunity, uh, to educate and to have some kind of a deterrent there without being super punitive. And with that, I'm, I'm open to questions Because I got committee.

  3. Committee chair18:19

     Okay. We got, we got quorum. Okay. I'll, Alright, thank you. Yes, we've got some comments, questions. Uh, is this from Representative Moss or Representative Dominguez?

  4. Rep. Carol S. Moss18:41

     Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, my question representative is, tell me a little bit more about these guns that are made to look real. Are they done on 3D printers, or where do these kids get ahold of such guns?

  5. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu18:55

     The ones in the situations I've been describing are actually, uh, non firearm devices. They're regulated under, um, uh, part of our code already, uh, actually federal code. Um, and these are, I guess a lot of you would call them airsoft guns or a lot of these, um, pellet guns and those type of guns that already look pretty similar to a real gun. But, uh, federal guidelines say that you, you've got a, at least when they're sold, they have an orange tip on the end of the barrel. Uh, and so maybe the kids have put black tape or painted over it or removed that tip. Um, or in the case of like squirt guns, right, they're clear. So you can see that it's not an actual firearm. Uh, so that's what's covered in that class of firearms, of toy guns. Yeah. Thank You. That's, um, that's really helpful.

  6. Rep. Carol S. Moss19:39

     Um, but, um, okay, so they are legal, so these pellet guns and so on, but they look so much like a regular firearm, is that correct? If they're altered to look like, um, a real gun, right? So if you took off that orange tip or something. So Some of them are doing that deliberately, right?

  7. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu19:59

     Absolutely. And some of these are, are very convincing, right? Uh, to where even law enforcement, uh, is gonna treat them as if they were real guns in that case.

  8. Rep. Carol S. Moss20:06

     One more question, if I might. So are some of the young people, the minors that are doing this, or I mean, are they deliberately trying to intimidate people? Is that, is that what has been observed and the reason for this velvet there In more than one case?

  9. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu20:23

     Yes, but I would err on the side of the majority of them are, are kids being kids out in the neighborhood or in a park. Um, the a bill that's before you hear for consideration, uh, actually doesn't touch toys in people's homes or in private residences. We're not looking over people's backyards, you know, kids playing cowboys and Indians or something on their own property. This has nothing to do with that. So this is restricted strictly to public spaces and our state definition of public spaces, uh, which be would be your schools, your parks, public office buildings, you know, restaurants and stores, that type of thing.

  10. Rep. Carol S. Moss20:58

      Thank you. Thank you.

  11. Committee chair21:00

      Okay. Uh, Representative Peck.

  12. Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck21:05

      Thank you, Mr. Chair. I was a tiny bit late to your presentation, so if you already covered this, I apologize, but I do have a question for you. And, and by the way, I, I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this and, and the attention to law enforcement and, you know, and all that kinda stuff. Um, I am wondering how many instances in the state right now do we have of children brandishing weapons that look exactly real, that end up being a concern for law enforcement or put law enforcement into a compromising situation? What is the number?

  13. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu21:46

      I, I would have to ask an expert on that. I know that the number is enough, uh, that police chiefs have been raising this in parks and rec departments, uh, in multiple cities, but I don't have a good number for your representative.

  14. Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck21:57

      Okay, thank you. Alright.

  15. Committee chair22:00

      Uh, Representative Watkins.

  16. Rep. Christine F. Watkins22:03

      Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I believe we've had some instances in Utah where we've actually had children either shot or killed because they had toy guns that Loa people, the police thought were real am uh, am I correct? Do you That's

  17. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu22:21

      Correct, yeah. And in neighboring states as well in recent years, yes.

  18. Rep. Christine F. Watkins22:24

      So my question on this, I I, I know what you're trying to do. I, I get it, but how do, how do, um, how does the police know if this, if this is an altered toy gun? You know, I, I, I just know and have seen kids playing with them and some, and you're like, whoa, you know, of course we're rural, hopefully we don't panic as much, but, um, I, I know that that can happen. So you're saying they're going to receive a, uh, an infraction Oh, great. Turn, get back in here, um, a, a, uh, a a warning or something like this. But how do we, how do they know that it really, how do we don't have, how do we know we're not gonna have a child shot a teenager or something?

  19. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu23:17

      To be honest, I don't know that we know that. Okay. I mean, every response is gonna be the appropriate response from the professional, you know, uh, perspective of the law enforcement who, uh, actually respond. Um, this is more of, and the police chiefs who have raised this and that we've, uh, discussed this particular language with, uh, are talking about when this happens at a playground or a park, someone is concerned, it is determined that it's, it's not a real gun. Um, but this actually allows police officers now, now you, you could cite somebody for, uh, maybe disorderly conduct or some other things, but there isn't anything specific that allows our law enforcement to actually address this particular issue, um, with an infraction. And so that's what this allows them to do. So the first time around would be like, look, kids, um, you may not even know that this is wrong, but you can't take that orange tip off. Yeah. Or you can't paint the gun to look like, you know, a real gun. Um, and it's basically a verbal, right. Um, if they knowingly do this again, now that they've been informed and they've had this interaction, and hopefully that educated interaction also involves parents or caregivers. Well, I would hope so, yes. Um, right. Um, then at that point, it, it could become an infraction. Again, the, uh, onus is on, you know, law enforcement to make the call that they feel is most appropriate. But, So we're trying to keep them outta jail and all these other things. I'm not gonna play this little period, So kids being kids game, but yeah. Okay. It, it shouldn't be overly punitive in that case, we really just trying to educate people, develop norms, uh, and make sure that folks are making responsible decisions as they grow up.

  20. Rep. Christine F. Watkins24:50

      Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

  21. Committee chair24:52

      Thank you, uh, Representative Dominguez.

  22. Rep. Rosalba Dominguez24:55

      Thank you. I moved down, so these mics can work, hopefully. Um, thank you for this Bill. I, I just wanted clarification. We're talking about like the Nerf guns, the airsoft guns, those types of guns, or like play guns. Is that correct?

  23. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu25:12

      Not even necessarily those, um, I, I should have had maybe a flyer, uh, with some illustrations of, um, but these are your, your pellet guns and your airsoft guns. Okay. Uh, including some that are, you know, even approached like a long barrel type of, uh, firearm look to them, um,

  24. Rep. Rosalba Dominguez25:28

      To look like a real gun. Correct. Correct. Okay. But not necessarily a squirt gun or a Nerf gun or something like that.

  25. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu25:33

      And it would just have the orange tip. Correct. That's the, the main one. But there are three different identifiers in the federal code for those guns. What are the three different identifiers again, if might be, the other One is color, like if it's hot pink or something. And obviously it's away gun. Um, and the other is being clear like a water gun.

  26. Rep. Rosalba Dominguez25:50

      Okay. Great. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Thank

  27. Committee chair25:53

      You. All right. Let's see. And we have Representative Shelley.

  28. Rep. Scott Shelley25:58

      Thank you, Mr. Chair. I, I appreciate your legislation. I, I think it's appropriate, um, at the end of the day, it could save a kid from getting shot by a police officer, and, and they have to make split second decisions as to whether or not their life is really in danger. It's not going to eliminate all of 'em, because some people are, or some of the kid kids are still going to do what kids do, and we're hoping that we don't end up in a tragedy. But, uh, but this is a step in the right direction. Thanks for the, thanks for the bill.

  29. Committee chair26:29

      Thank you. All right. Uh, I, I have a couple of questions if that's all right. Please, representative.

  30. Unknown speaker26:37speaker not certain

      So as I read the bill, it's short and sweet public place is referred to another section. So to save me going to look at the other section, does that include, say like a sidewalk?

  31. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu26:52

      Uh, so public place, I can actually read it to you. It's not super long, but it does include streets or highways, uh, common areas of schools, hospitals, apartment houses, office buildings, public buildings, public facilities, transport facilities, uh, like a train station or a bus station and shops.

  32. Unknown speaker27:12speaker not certain

      Okay. I mean, 'cause in my brain you mentioned streets. I live, I live in a little cul-de-sac there in St. George. And that's a street, I think. So, I mean, we have little kids running around playing, uh, in the street day and night. And so this, this would apply to them in our cul-de-sac. Right.

  33. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu27:34

      It's a good question. And we talked about this with the police chiefs and the other folks we worked with on this, uh, same language last year. Uh, and really they appreciated having discretion in that, you know, when someone's in their yard or puts one foot out onto the curb, where's that line? We really do trust our law enforcement to make that discretion. Yeah,

  34. Unknown speaker27:53speaker not certain

      Yeah. Okay. And then, uh, as, as I read it, it does say intentionally or knowingly possesses the altered toy. So there was some questions about brandishing, uh, which is clearly one thing. Brandishing a lookalike firearm is, is one thing, but possessing a toy, I mean, so, uh, you could have it in, I don't know, like a Halloween Halloween costume as a cowboy or maybe even in a shoulder holster like some other Halloween costume would. That would be possession, right? This, this was another really good discussion that we had, uh, with the folks that we consulted with. Um, and in that term, or in this specific language, the word brandishing is not purposely used because, uh, anytime it's visible, um, it would be considered or the possession is visible, then that's really when, you know, people could react or they could call it law enforcement or something like that. So I guess in the examples that you've mentioned, um, if they had been, um, altered according to what we're talking about here, uh, and displayed or in possession, uh, in a public space, then it would apply, correct? Yeah.

  35. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu29:12

      Yeah. Um, but it does, because the class is very specific as well, the class of these imitation firearms. Um, this doesn't apply to like, um, your theatrical performances. You know, if you had a, uh, some kind of a play where there might be a firearm there or something, um, you know, Comic-Con types of, um, you know, gatherings where you might have some of these, um, but don't fit within that same code. They haven't, they're not imitation guns that have been altered to look like real guns. They've been built for other theatrical purposes that also is not, uh, covered here.

  36. Unknown speaker29:46speaker not certain

      Okay. Right. So, sorry, just getting in my brain. Yep. So we didn't mention brandishing. Okay. Uh, but we also don't mention visible. We do just mention possession here, I think. Right. That makes it unlawful. That's correct. Yeah. Okay.

  37. Committee chair30:06

      Alright. Alright. Seeing no other, um, lights from the committee will go to public comment. Uh, is there anyone here from the public that wants to comment on this Bill? I see a couple of hands. Okay. So I guess we'll take both comments one at a time. Come up and sign the role and, uh, identify yourself for the record and give us your, your comment please.

  38. Raelle Cunningham, State Director, Women For Gun Rights30:41

      My name is Rael Cunningham. I am with Women for Gun Rights, so I appreciate this bill. Um, there are some things that concern me in it and it affects my family directly. Uh, both of my sons compete in Airsoft and their guns are made to look like real firearms. We haven't altered them in any way, but I think if you get somebody who looks at a firearm like an airsoft gun, at a quick glance, they may not know, especially if they didn't grow up with firearms, they haven't been in this world because you can alter real firearms to look like fake firearms. Um, you mentioned the hot pink gun. My competition rifle is actually hot pink 'cause I painted it that way. And so, but it is very, very much real. And so that's kind of some of my big concerns is in the actual bill here it says lookalike. It doesn't say altered to lookalike, it just says lookalike. Where when we bought our imitation or our ar airsoft guns, they're already made to look real with the little orange tip. And so that worries me because then that's gonna make it so that my kids, even though they're responsible and we take them to an actual place, but if maybe they're taking 'em out of their house to put 'em in the vehicle, somebody calls it in, are they now gonna get an infraction that's gonna follow them throughout their life? And is that gonna put a ding on them? And so I just like would like some clarifying language in that to make it more specific. Um, 'cause it, it also doesn't say like, using it in a manner to scare people or to commit a crime or anything like that. And so that's where I don't, I would like some more clarifying language before I could say we should vote on this. So thank you.

  39. Committee chair32:17

      All right. Thank you. All right. We have another public comment. Please, uh, state your name and your organization for the record, and then, uh, then give us your, your comments. Thank

  40. Clark Aposhian, Chair, Utah Shooting Sports Council32:31

      You, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. My name is Clark, a potion. I chair the Utah Shooting Sports Council and represent them today. Um, I appreciate the sponsor's, um, willingness to, to talk with us about this. And I think I understand, uh, the bill and the intent behind it as well. Some of our problems are, um, well first we think that cities know their own community a little better than the entire state. Legislature knows every city. So I think this would probably be better addressed by a city. And they, they're able to do that because these are not firearms. They don't suffer that deficiency from a, a preemption. Um, in addition, possesses just the mere possession. You could possess that in your hand. You could be in possession of one of these in your backpack, never intending to ever take it out. Um, and I would favor the term. I don't know that I would actually go for the bill, but I would favor the term brandishing because it actually involves doing something display with the intent to intimidate that type of thing, rather than just the mere possession, um, sidewalk in front of the house. That is a scary thing. Right? You know, I mean, literally this bill would include that. As far as I can see. I also don't, I don't see a definition and maybe there is somewhere in code on previously. Uh, line 38 has previously received a documented warning. How much time in between the documented warning and the infraction itself? Um, I would like to look at, um, you know, could you perhaps even modify disorderly conduct, uh, under 1 0 2 76 9 1 0 2, or 76 5 1 0 7? Threat of violence. Threat of violence doesn't require an actual firearm. Just that, that that threat, if you will, or even a, a statement. So, um, we would be, we would urge a no vote on this at this time. Thank you.

  41. Committee chair34:34

      Okay. Thank you. Um, is there anyone online? Kale Weston. Kale Weston? Mm-hmm. Okay. Kale Weston Online. Uh, please unmute and turn on your camera and then identify yourself and tell us where, where you are and who you represent.

  42. Kael Weston, resident34:55

      Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair Kale Weston Salt Lake County. Speaking for myself. Uh, I want to thank the sponsor and, and hopefully, uh, move you all to move this outta committee. This is exactly the kind of bill, uh, as one representative said that could and very likely would save lives. And secondly, I think that the people of Utah have been looking for exactly this kind of legislation that can get bipartisan support, uh, that will make, uh, our neighborhoods safer for both law enforcement, uh, and for kids. And I, I say that as someone who spent a lot of time with fake guns as a kid in the eighties, um, but we're dealing in a world that's very different than it was then. So I would encourage you to move this bill forward. Thank you.

  43. Committee chair35:36

      Thank you. All right. Uh, Catherine Stokes also online. Please unmute, turn on your camera, identify yourself for the record, and tell us where you are and who you represent.

  44. Katherine Stokes, resident36:02

      Hi, Go ahead. My name Catherine, go ahead. Don't worry. I'm Catherine Stokes. I am speaking for myself. I live in Murray, Utah. I've been a nurse for 20 years. Most of that time was spent in a pediatric ICU. And so I've taken care of many children who've been in the unfortunate situation of having a gunshot wound. I think this is a great bill. As nurses, we are educators, and we really care deeply about prevention. We don't want any family in our unit and dealing with the disaster and catastrophe that comes, um, from such a tragedy. And I think that this also really supports our law enforcement colleagues on making good decisions and doing the interventions that they do in our communities every day, providing education. Um, so I really think it supports people from all sides and all perspectives, and it's a good bill.

  45. Committee chair36:59

      Okay. Thank you. Is that everybody? All right. That is everyone online, everyone in the room. So we'll bring it back to the Committee for action. Uh, if anyone in the committee has a motion they would care to make. All right. Representative Moss.

  46. Rep. Carol S. Moss37:26

      Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that we pass this out with a favorable rep recommendation. I'd like to speak to that. Um, I, I appreciate the concerns that we heard. Um, and I, I in particular, the mother and her children, you know, who do the competitions, but it seems to me that there are safeguards in this bill that would allow, you know, an officer to check with them and they just say, Hey, I do this in competition. I mean, I think that it would be a matter of police officers approaching these kids. They don't just rush up to them and, you know, handcuff them. But I think that the overriding situation here, and reason for this bill is that nurse just said is the safety issue for kids that are, you know, think it's fun to play with guns and pretend they're real. And so I think there are safeguards, and that would be reasonable as, uh, Mr. Potion pointed out too. Maybe you could change a word or two. But I think overall, this is a bill about safety for minors, and I think that that should override some of these other concerns that I think could be handled.

  47. Committee chair38:38

      Thank you. Okay. So the motion was to pass out HB 83 from the committee with a favorable recommendation. So, uh, bill sponsor, do you want to respond to that motion?

  48. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu38:55

      Very briefly? I appreciate the motion. I appreciate all of the comments and critiques, uh, and questions from all perspectives. Um, as, as cool as we like to think we are and as smart as we like to think we are, um, we never come through with a bill that is perfect with every single word, uh, making every single person happy. And so I'm more than happy to work with folks around some of the things that have been brought up to make sure that we are covering some of those blind spots that might be there. But I appreciate the motion and, uh, I'm grateful for the discussion today. Thank you.

  49. Committee chair39:26

      All right. Then we'll go to the Committee for Debate Debate of the motion. Um, Representative Dominguez, do you want to speak to the motion? No. No. Okay. I apologize. Representative Shipp, do you wanna speak to the motion? Yeah,

  50. Rep. Rex P. Shipp39:44

      Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to reserve the right to make a motion. Okay. You reserve the right to make a motion. I, I just think one of the things that we've, uh, talked a lot about in our, uh, legislature and the house is the fact that we want to do the work of our, our committee work in committee. And I think some of the suggestions that were made by those that spoke are real. And it sounds like the representative is willing to work on that. So I, I think we need to give him time to do it and come back to the committee. So I would make a motion to hold the bill.

  51. Committee chair40:25

      Okay. So that's a substitute motion. So now I have two motions. Yes. So now do we, I need to go to vote to on one before we can do anything else, Have discussion. I'm okay with that, Except the substitute Charge. All right. So the, the substitute motion is to hold the bill to give the bill sponsor a chance to make some revisions, is that correct? That is correct. And we ought to have some discussion about that, That you wanna make now? No, I've already Oh, discussion in a minute. Okay. Yeah. Alright. So, but we'll go back now to the original motion maker to comment on the substitute motion.

  52. Rep. Carol S. Moss41:17

      Um, I'll withdraw my motion and defer to the substitute.

  53. Committee chair41:22

      Okay. So we've deferred, now we are down to the substitute motion. Correct. Okay. So for the substitute motion, now we're ready for committee discussion of the substitute motion to hold the bill to give the sponsor time to work on it. So do you want now to speak to that Representative Shipp?

  54. Rep. Rex P. Shipp41:45

      Uh, just, uh, the fact that we need, there's some things were mentioned. The representative said that he is willing to make some changes. We ought to do that in committee and then bring it back for final approval from There. Okay.

  55. Committee chair41:59

      We have some more comments to that. Uh, Representative Peck.

  56. Rep. Nicholeen P. Peck42:05

      Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I suppose that, that I can go for holding. It's just that I'm not sure that this is gonna get there because we're regulating toys. I don't know if we've ever regulated toys before. Like, I feel like this is a whole new, you know, area. Um, I like, I like the idea of protecting children from possible police misinterpretation of what's going on and, and possible accidents that could happen because of that. Like, I, I feel like that's a really important part of this bill. But I also feel like that we're sort of stepping into other people's business, their homes, what their parents should be teaching them, and we don't know how often this is actually happening and, you know, and all of that. And so I guess I just feel like, Sorry, you're making a substitute motion or No, I guess I'm saying I, I don't know if, if holding is gonna get, is gonna actually get it there because we're regulating toys and, and I, I don't know if that's the way we should go anyway.

  57. Committee chair43:12

      Okay. Uh, Representative Watkins,

  58. Rep. Christine F. Watkins43:16

      Uh, thank you Mr. Chair. Um, we went through this last year with another bill, uh, where it was so close, but we did hold it and let the sponsor work on it and it came back and then it sailed right through. And I think we've got just a couple little things that could be done very quickly, very quickly. And we're at the beginning of the session. I think there's plenty of time, and I think we regulate toys all the time. We may not, but there are other people who regulate toys and it's not, I don't think we're regulating toys. I think we're, uh, trying to, um, let kids be kids, but also let 'em know that they're, that they, uh, are entering an area that could prove to be a real negative for them. Uh, I raised four sons. Um, I get that. Of course we were in Castle Dale, but maybe a little different than up here. But, um, there's just a couple of things that kind of, uh, bother me, but I think could be fixed very quickly. And I'm, I'm going to ask the two people that that came up and spoke, I would hope that they would reach out to you and make some really good recommendations. You could be back this week if, if the, um, chair was willing to put you when you get it fixed, doesn't take 'em very long. You could be back in this committee. So I support The Motion, you support the motion to hold.

  59. Committee chair44:37

      So get around that. So, alright, I see no other comments on the motion to hold. So we'll go back to the original bill sponsor. Yes.

  60. Rep. Jake Fitisemanu44:49

      Let's, all right. Uh, original bill sponsor, uh, do you have any comments for the committee on this motion? It's a friendly motion. The objective here is not to sail bills through, uh, and to, you know, get as close as we can to pass something. This is the objective is to do something that's positive and has the effect that we want it to have for society. So I'm willing to work with, uh, anybody who wants to help me work on this. And it's a friendly motion. Thank you.

  61. Committee chair45:17

      Okay. All right. Well then, uh, we'll bring this back to the committee for a vote, uh, to hold the bill. And, uh, I detect some, some dissent Maybe. Do we need to do a roll call? Vote. It's Alright. Let's go ahead and roll call if you would please. Let's see. Which, what number are you at? 17. Can you press it? Did I get you? Yes. Okay. All right. Representatives. Chu? Yes. Dominguez? Yes. Moss? Yes. Peck? Yes. Shelly? Yes. Ship? Yes. Watkins? Yes. Peterson? Yes. And Jack? Yes. Okay. That passed unanimously. So, uh, representative Piti Shaman. Thank you. Thank You. Look forward to seeing you soon. All right. So next up on our agenda is,