H.B. 324 Utah Marriage Commission Fee Amendments: transcript

Thank you, Mr. Chair and committee members. I appreciate you bringing this bill back, um, for the Utah Marriage Commission fee expansion. Um, I, you've heard the discussion, but I just wanna emphasize three things. Um, number one, this is, uh, quote unquote a user fee, which means it is meant to be for this purpose, the, the fees. And so it's nice that it can stay in supporting strong relationships instead of, uh, filter or going into the general fund, which, um, uh, is much more broad in its scope. The second thing is, with this expansion, one thing that the marriage commission has started doing, but does need more funds to, to continue to do, is actually translate, uh, the relationship courses and information into Spanish. Um, the few that they have done has, have been very well received, um, in Utah, and they would like to continue expanding that for, for Spanish speakers. Um, and the third thing that I think is helpful is the marriage Commission does not emphasize or specify, um, the, uh, one, uh, marriage status over another or single status over another. Or, uh, nor does it define marriage. The whole purpose of the content that is online is really to support all Utahans, regardless of where they are in their relationship, um, pathway. Whether it's dating or divorced or remarried or emerging families, whatever it may be. It's great resources for Utahans.

Yeah, I'll make a motion that we favor, we recommend House Bill 3 24 discussion to that motion back to the sponsor. Waive. Senator Vickers. I waive. Okay.

Thank you so much Mr. Uh, committee, uh, chair and committee members. Um, the Marriage, Utah Marriage Commission was created with, uh, former First Lady Jackie lut, and has been in existence ever since then. Um, it ha used to be a great opportunity with, for universities to have conferences, but in the last few years, it's had a drastic change in the structure, including a board that is currently chaired by Bruce Huff, who is online. Uh, and it now is a 5 0 1 C3 under, uh, Utah State University, which is really important because this is the only entity that I know of in Utah that promotes marriage. And if you ask yourself, when was the last time you saw marriage being promoted, we see the opposite. So this is a really important commission. Um, just to give you an in, uh, an idea of what the influence has been and why Utahans are really looking for these resources. Um, stronger marriage.org has online now multiple, uh, opportunities for podcasts, um, uh, intervention strategies, and not just for those who are married, but it goes everything from dating how to not fall for a jerk, um, all the way up to marriage remarriage, divorced Blanding families. It really is ways for all Utahans to learn how to strengthen their relationships. So when this was first set up, set up as a funding stream for, uh, $20 for marriage licenses, it was, it, this is designated only for online marriages at the time, no, counties were doing online marriages. Today, there's really two counties. There's Utah County and Tula County. Um, and so if a Utah goes to do an on apply for an online marriage license, um, if they do a very short course online from the Marriage Commission, they don't have to pay the $20. So it's interesting that, um, some of the counties, particularly Utah County, has one third of their online applicants are from Utah, one third are from out of the state, one third are from outta the country. Um, so the money that is funneling into the Marriage Commission is a great business model for those outside of the state and outside of the country to pay for resources and promoting marriage in Utah. And this is important because there are countries like Israel who do not allow a Jew to marry a Christian. And so there's been great partnerships that Utah County has had, um, for things like this. But let's get back to Utah. Um, let's get back to what the Marriage Commission does. And initially the cap was $400,000. This original bill actually took that cap off because otherwise we have to keep coming back with like, this year it's got a fiscal note, which really isn't a fiscal note. It's these fees that are specifically designated to support marriage in Utah. Um, last year was the first year it went over the $400,000 cap. And so those funds are now going to the general fund, which has nothing to do with supporting marriage. Um, one of my colleagues in the house put the cap up to $600,000, which is great. So that's where we are right now. Um, and so if you wonder what really does the Marriage commission do, Brian Higginbotham is gonna quickly go through some slides that give you the parameters of the incredible impact that the Marriage Commission has. And he, by the way, is the he'll introduce himself, um, in his role at USU. He's online. Yeah.

Can you hear me okay? Yes, we can go ahead. Okay. Thanks so much. Lemme just share my screen really quick. Okay. Lemme just go through a couple things that Representative Ballard asked me to. First of all, my name's Brian Higginbotham. I'm the Associate Vice President for Utah State University Extension, and back in 2021, we were asked to be the host, um, of the Utah Marriage Commission as part of House Bill 55. Um, so I'm not here to, uh, really advocate one way or the other. We're we're, the hosts we're neutral in this. Um, but I was asked to talk a little bit about what the implications have been of the current, um, cap. It does create some, uh, challenges for us, honestly, um, as the host because there's bills that are ongoing, and when the cap, um, is reached as it as it was reached this past fiscal year, the funding stops flowing. Um, but the bills still need to be paid. And, um, there is no special appropriation or there's no line item in us, U'S budget to cover the marriage commission, uh, per house bill 55 in 2021. All expenses are to be billed towards, uh, these dedicated credits. And again, um, when that magic number is hit, um, the state turns off the spigot, um, which creates a lot of, um, administrative challenges for us. And so, as I understand, uh, this current bill, there's, there's not necessarily a request to, to change the, um, the mission of the Utah Marriage Commission, um, or any of the statutory responsibilities. Um, so what those include are things like all the things that you see here on the screen. Um, we run, um, all the marriage education discount programs. We also teach a whole bunch of different classes statewide that are available for folks. There's a podcast, there's webinars, uh, there's CEU opportunities for professionals who are working with individuals who are in marriages or preparing for marriages. Um, these, these resources are being used by tens of thousands of individuals. They address really important topics, challenging topics, um, that, that really challenge relationships. Um, these webinars are taught by professionals who are clinicians licensed here in the state. Um, and those who participate in these kinds of programs overwhelmingly report that they are helpful in, um, their efforts to improve their relationships. Um, this is just, uh, one, one slide of many of the, the, the longer e-course that are available for individuals who are preparing to get married. Um, people who are looking, are interested in getting married, but are struggling to know how to date and the current culture to everything from remarriage to step families. And then other topics are constantly being created. And as resources are, if more resources were to be made available, what it would equate to is more courses, more availability for individuals around the state to prepare for and to have stronger relationships. Um, again, you can kind of see just from a data perspective, those who are accessing these resources. Again, we're talking hundreds of thousands of individuals, um, in the, in the target kind of demographics that you, you would expect. So I was asked just to respond to a couple of, uh, anticipated questions. One, is there anyone else already doing this? And I would say, not that we know of. Um, as we've done our needs analyses, I mean, obviously churches do some, but not everybody goes to church. And interestingly, this month we had leaders from the LDS Church Family Services reach out to us, um, asking for what resources we could share with the clinicians. Um, so that tells you a little bit, um, the Marriage Commission really is the only organization that we know of that is in statute to do this work. So, you know, is Representative Ballard's bill, uh, a blank check or just a request for more money? Um, well, not really, because this isn't an appropriation. It, it's in many ways a user fee. Those, those who get a marriage license are the only ones who pay the fee. And that fee is being gathered under the auspice that it's going to help marriages. And so, if anything, what this bill does is simply allow the Marriage Commission to utilize the resources that are being gathered for the Marriage Commission rather than having them be capped out and then just being held at the general fund level. Um, you know, if things are already working, why change? Well, I would argue that the commission is doing great things, um, from our perspective as the host and as we've reported back to our, our Committee of Health and Human Services, um, for our, our, our, uh, reports, um, no one's questioned really whether what we're doing is good. I think the question here is, D, does the state want more to happen? And if they're gonna continue to gather these fees, should they be allowed to go to the organization, um, for which they were gathered to create more resources for the individuals who are marrying? Um, so, uh, with that, I'll defer back to Representative Ballard, but happy to respond to any other questions the committee may have for the host institution. Uh, thank you so much. I also have Bruce Huff, who's the current chair of the Marriage Commission. So if you wonder what do, what would the commission do with more funding? Um, he has a great perspective on that.

Yeah, and I don't think as a user fee was meant to go to the general fund as a way of streaming money to the legislature or to the state. It was, uh, set up to support marriage throughout Utah. I'll give you an example. Just the last year of the funding that, uh, the, the commission, uh, decided to use it for one of them was, uh, they commissioned the Kempsey Gardner Institute, uh, to do a study on marriage penalties in Utah's tax code. So that came out April of, of last year, and hence the bill this year, um, HB two 10 to eliminate marriage penalties because the Marriage Commission asked the Kempsey Garden report and, and paid for that report. A second thing was our legislative body, uh, uh, required that schools now teach the success sequence, which is if you graduate from high school, get a full-time job and get married before you have a child, you have a 95% chance of not being in poverty. The Utah Marriage Commission was the only entity that stepped up to say, we can help create that curriculum for the schools to teach. So, and then the third thing is, uh, is that just in the last month, 160,000 hits. Um, we're on the podcast episodes alone, so I think that shows there's a hundred plus many courses, 12 full lengthy courses, 90 plus expert led webinars. And I just think that kind of content of a is incredible for the hits and the impact that this has. So, Bruce, um, if you're online, I'd love to have you share as the chair of the marriage commission your vision of what the commission could do for the state of Utah if money beyond the $400,000, and if you put $400,000 just in the context of staff, it doesn't go very far for a commission that is doing this kind of expert, um, free content for the state of Utah.

Are you there, Bruce? I think he's trying to unmute and put his video on. While we're waiting, I'll hand this to you. Maybe, uh, maybe he's not there. We'll see. But

Well, well, if you, uh, look here and, um, if maybe Bruce will pop back on, uh, to, to share the perspectives of the marriage commission. But if you look at the handout that I've shared with you, this is also in the meeting minutes for the house, um, when this was presented, um, there's an incredible amount of opportunity. And if this is just what was done in the last year, the question is now that there's content that the Marriage Commission was able to provide, um, where can it go? And I will say that the Marriage Commission has discussed a number of different things initially when, um, first Lady Jackie Lovett has created this. I remember there were billboards that said stronger marriage.org. Um, and, uh, why marriage matters to you and why it matters to me and why strong relationships matter.

Um, Bruce is a, is great. Um, let's see. I've got a text her, let's see if he's coming back on. Um, you know what, I'm gonna have maybe Brian Higginbotham give some more perspective, um, if we can give, let him come back on.

For some reason it kicked me out and, uh, I was having trouble getting back anytime. I'm back on my phone here now. So, um, I think the question was, uh, what would we do, uh, what, what would be doing in the future? Is that correct? Yes. Thank you, Bruce. Uh, so as, uh, both Brian and Melissa have, uh, stated, we've done a lot in terms of creating content. We have, uh, a, a, uh, cadre of academic experts who have really produced, uh, some of the finest, uh, relationship programming, uh, going from, as they mentioned, from high school to, to our more advanced, uh, senior married couples and relationships, uh, looking for an extra spark. So there's something for everyone. Um, the thing that I, uh, I, I have kind to come to discover, uh, as the Chairman of the Commission, which is an appointed position. All of our commission members are appointed by the governor and work with his, uh, office of of family that, uh, is headed by Amy, uh, Amy Winder Newton. Um, we work, uh, in tandem that we, um, we have the content and now we need to really get it into the hands of the people, especially of Utah. This content is all provided free to anyone who is a resident of Utah. Uh, so even though their tax dollars aren't paying for this content and marriage fees are, they are the beneficiaries of everything that we are doing, uh, in the, in the commission. So how do we get it into the hands of people? Well, that has been the biggest challenge. And part of that is certainly, uh, you can use marketing programs that could include everything from digital marketing, uh, in social media, and, uh, uh, other, uh, digital marketing sources, uh, billboards, uh, which we did for really the first time, uh, at least in, in my memory, uh, uh, during marriage week last week. Uh, and had some really great reaction from those, uh, tied in with our digital media. One of the things that we'd like to do is, uh, encourage businesses, uh, to bring this into their employee assistance programs, including the state of Utah, uh, where we've already made a contact that, that our programming is like, uh, uh, any other, uh, employee assistance program that might be available online to employees. Uh, if we think about, um, uh, mental health issues, we think about other, uh, employee assistance programs that are made available. This is a perfect, uh, companion to what a employer could offer their employees and could actually be a very strong, uh, method for getting it into the hands of, of people. And that could include training of human resource personnel to help them with, uh, how to intervene, uh, appropriately with their employees to, to offer assistance in a way that could help them. Because in business, uh, if you are absent, relationships are one of the main reasons that you become a, a, a problem in terms of absenteeism and also in presenteeism. So, for example, you may show up to work, but you may not be totally present because of the relationships that are, uh, causing, uh, uh, you know, despair or, or lack of hope or, or even, uh, difficulties and just, you know, all the things that can occur in a difficult relationship. And so having those resources available to employees would be a really strong method for, I think, integrating into, uh, all of the, the, uh, uh, citizens of this, of this state and being able to provide them free material. So those are some of the things we'd like to do. We'd like to expand our marketing. We'd like to expand our, our, uh, integration into the business EAP systems, which we have not begun yet, that would require resources to, to get that into that, uh, that field. And, um, we have a number of initiatives to help support the success sequence that Melissa talked about. That was something we jumped into. We weren't asked to do it, but we had the resources and we saw the mandate from the legislature. And, and because the legislature put us in statute, we said, well, this is a perfect, uh, uh, perfect assignment for us. And so we took it upon ourselves to provide that success sequence program, a a, a program that, uh, has been proven, uh, already, and, uh, now has been accepted by the Utah State Board of Education for, uh, introduce, uh, introduction into the financial literacy and into the health classes, uh, starting in the fall. Uh, so those are things we've done. Now. We need to figure out how to promote it. And one of the things we'd like to promote is success sequence in the schools. And we have a number of initiatives that our commissioners have, uh, creatively come up with, uh, in terms of encouraging students to participate and to know about and to, uh, find acceptable in their peer groups. This idea of the success sequence. So lots of, lots of ideas and things that we can do to support our mission mandated, uh, by statute. And we just like the resources to continue to flow in a way that is convenient, which means that, uh, if we do reach a cap, uh, uh, maybe we, we wouldn't have to, uh, uh, give it back, which was one of the, one of the administrative issues that Brian had to go through at Utah State University. It's not easy to give money back. Uh, and so we just, like right now, we know we have a cap put on us at, uh, $600,000. That's great. We appreciate any additional resources we can get, and we are looking forward to utilizing them in a way that, uh, the state, uh, benefits and each of its citizens benefit from access to this kind of programming. Thanks.

Thank you. Um, I just wanna sum, uh, with two things. One of them, in as perspective for all marriage applications across the state, whether they're online or not, um, county clerks collect $10 for the Children's Legal Defense Fund and $10 for the operations of victims of domestic violence, which are all downstream services. Um, this is the only prevention measure in the state that I know of. But for those fees that are collected at the time from all marriage license applicants is, are all for statutory purposes. For example, legal defense fund, domestic violence shelters, but they have no cap on their amounts. Those fees are not limited to online applications. And there's millions of dollars flowing to both of those accounts. This is the, the only one that is prevention. Um, and in fact, when, when the community board was really expanded for the marriage commission, we had one individual who said, but I can't be on the board. I'm in the process of getting a divorce. And when we showed this individual the resources that we have and the purpose of the marriage commission, the response was, I wish I had this 10 years ago. So with that, I, I really appreciate the vision and the purpose of the marriage commission, the impact that this has for Utahans, the opportunity that there is to now promote marriage unlike we've never had before in the state of Utah. So that concludes my presentation.

Sorry. There I am. Yeah. Uh, Aaron Davidson, Utah County Clerk. Uh, I just wanna thank, uh, Representative Ballard for the work she's done on this. Um, I think, you know, there's, in this in law, there's truth in taxation. I think there should also be truth in fee assessment. Uh, and when we charge that $20 to people who are getting married, I, I think that it should go to where, um, we advertise it's gonna go. So I think raising the cap from 400,000 to 600,000 is a good thing. Um, I'd still like to know where the other amount goes. This year we contributed 500, or last year we contributed $560,000, uh, toward the 400,000. So that 160,000 Uintah, the general fund, and this year we're projecting to collect about 650 to $700,000. Um, so it'd just be nice to know where that money is going and, and, and use it toward something along the marriage line of business. Um, most, uh, like she said, uh, a lot of this money's coming from people outside of our state and outside of our country. And we're saying that we're using it for marriage purposes. It'd be nice to, to know that those funds are actually being used for marriages purposes. Uh, so I support this bill. I'm really thankful for the, the work that Representative Ballard has done in this bill. So, thank you.

Mr. Chair. I would make a, a motion. We favor recommend house Bill 3 24.

Thank you for your support. I just think there's, there's nothing like this in the state. Um, and I think the fees that are brought in for this purpose make a big difference to stay for this purpose.

I'm a no. You're a no. Okay.

Uh, thank you Representative Ballard. Um, so we do have a, my motion is to adopt amendment two, which is now online to, uh, HB 3 24, Utah Marriage Commission Fee Amendments. Okay. The motion is to adopt amendment two to HB 3 24, Utah Marriage Commission fee amendments.

Yeah, just very briefly. I think I made my comments clear previously. I'm supportive of the action today. Um, amendment two raises it to 600,000, not 500,000. That gives the marriage commission substantial room. That's a 30% increase, 33% increase over where they currently are. Um, I do have a reservation that if for some reason all of a sudden the fee revenue started to explode in this program. I think that, uh, I know there's a report that's provided, but I think that that would be something, at least my preference would be to have it come back to the committee, which is a reason for my proposal for Amendment two.

If I had the money to help the Utah Marriage Commission on my own, I would do that. Um, I don't, but because this is not my money to give, um, I would not be inclined to vote for this to vote in favor. That is

Thank you. Um, Madam Vice chair, I would like to make a motion that we pass House Bill 3 24 as amended out with a favorable recommendation. The motion is to pass out HB 3 24 as amended with a favorable recommendation.

I feel comfortable with the balance, um, and hopefully that's still a step in the right direction, uh, for the commission, I hope.

I just wanna say that I really do believe that, um, that, that marriages are important and that we should work on them to improve them, but I don't believe it's proper rule of government to be involved in marriages. So I am, no, I'm a no on this vote.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Pro Tem, um, HB 3 24 does not create a new, uh, process or a new fee or a new, um, entity. The Utah Marriage Commission already exists. It, uh, the only thing that it does is extend that cap of how many of the fees actually go to the Utah Marriage Commission that initially were designated for that. So just to give you the impact that the Utah Marriage Commission has had just in the last year or so that you would be familiar with. Uh, number one, we had the success sequence that this body supported, uh, that be taught in our K through 12 schools. The Utah Marriage Commission was the only one that stepped forward to say, we will help create curriculum that the schools can teach. And they did it immediately. Um, and the second thing that they have done is they actually commissioned the Chem c Gardner Institute to evaluate Utah Marriage Tax Penalties in Utah and commissioned that report. And that report came out in April of 2025, which is the result of bills for this legislative session, including HB two 10, uh, to help eliminate marriage tax penalties. Um, one other thing is their, uh, resources are free to Utahans and, uh, available everything from e-course mini courses, evaluations, supporting you as you're dating, uh, uh, like how to not fall for a jerk up to marriage and, uh, remarriage or Blanding families. And this is a free resource for all Utahans. Um, last month alone, their, uh, their online presence had more than 160,000 hits, which tells you how much Utah Utahns want support for marriage. And it's the only entity that exists in Utah that actually supports marriage. That conclusion my presentation. Thank

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Port. Um, I rise in support, um, of this bill. I think this is a good change. It will allow some additional funding that come from the fees, uh, to, to go to the marriage commission to them, for them to use to their purposes. I do think it is worth, um, stopping a minute to think about, uh, another thing that makes the Marriage commission what it is. We put it in place for some certain processes, um, to promote marriage, uh, here in our state. And it has done a good job of that. It has turned out to be another thing also altogether. Um, and that is because of the process that they, that we have online for, to be willing to do marriages for people who are out of state and out of the country. Our process does also serve another purpose, um, and that is there are some countries that will not recognize interfaith marriages at all. Um, Israel is one where if you're a Christian, you can marry a Christian. If you're a Jew, you can marry a Jew and if you're a Muslim, you can marry a Muslim. But if you are an agnostic, you cannot marry anyone. And if you're a Jew, you cannot marry outside your faith. The only marriage authorities in Israel are within the religions. Um, but they also have decided that they will honor marriages that are done internationally. And so the process that we have here in Utah, um, actually serves that purpose. Um, and people from that country come here, they get their marriage done internationally, they're able to get married, and then they're able to be married in their country. They've decided that they will accept those marriages. So, um, the whole process that we put in place here has served our needs. Um, and it has served other needs outside the state as well. But I do think it's useful to kind of understand that we are serving both purposes with what we have put in place.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Pro Tem, would the sponsor yield to a series of questions? Will the sponsor yield to a series of questions? Yes. Yes. Is, are our marriage rates in the state of Utah increasing or declining generally?

Uh, Mr. Speaker Pro, they're actually declining, uh, about 20% right now. So whatever we can do in Utah to help support marriages, support stronger relationships, and that's what the Marriage commission does. They have stronger marriage.org with, with great resources for Utahans to be better and have a stronger marriage and stronger relationship. So, so this is definitely beneficial.

Thank you. I appreciate that. So if this money isn't going toward a higher volume in marriages, then is it going toward these curriculums and things that the, that their, the department is volunteering to make? And are we wanting to increase that amount that they can get that percentage because there's less marriages and we're in danger of losing the office? So I guess that's two questions, but

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker Pro tem. Uh, my preference would be to not even have a cap because this was meant for the Utah Marriage Commission. Um, the cap was put in place, um, and this extends that whatever is collected above that cap goes back to the general fund, which is not designated to support marriage. So I think, at least for now, with an extended cap or, or beyond, I think is really important that, uh, this, uh, and, and by the way, the, the fees that are collected, if you are a Utah resident and you're gonna get married and you're doing an only an online application, you can have that fee waived if you do a very short premarital eCourse. So you wouldn't even have to pay it. So right now, this is a great business model, uh, as the representative from Bountiful said that the, that we are actually having, um, individuals from outside of the state and outside of the country helping to fund a great resource for Utahans.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Pro tem. Um, with as much love, um, for marriage and as much love for the sponsor of this beautiful bill, I will not be supporting it because I do not believe that it is a proper role of government to be involved in marriages. And so I'll be involved.

Thank you so much. When, right now there are other fees across the state, not just for online marriages across the state that every person who's married has to pay. There's a $10 fee for domestic violence that millions of dollars stream through to support those on the downstream that have problems with their marriages and their relationships. So this is the only thing that exists upstream and only for online applications. So I think this is a good thing for Utah and, and a good thing for supporting marriage in in their state. Thank you, Mr. Speaker ProAm.

Thank you. This motion, this motion, this bill increases the cap on the Utah Marriage Commission. Um, and, uh, this supports free online resources for all utahns at a website called stronger marriage.org. Uh, once the cap is met, all of the funds are then deposited and the excess funds are deposited into the general fund. Um, and, uh, current fee schedules, uh, fluctuate depending on the number of applicants creating some instability. Um, for the staff support for the Utah Marriage Commission, um, some additional funds would support, uh, Spanish Trans Translation of content, uh, and continue on online free resources for them. Um, this website, stronger marriage.org, received 160,000 hits last month alone. Uh, this bill does not define marriage or prefer one marriage or status, uh, or does not prefer one marriage or single status, uh, over another. And, uh, with that, um, I'll yield to any questions.

Motion. I'm gonna, uh, just move a call to the Senate 'cause I, I'm not even sure we have a quorum.

Mr. President, can I just lift the call and I'm gonna make a motion to circle, um, 'cause I, I need, I need more on this bill, but I can, we can do other bills that maybe aren't as controversial.

Thank you Mr. President ProAm. I'd like to make a motion to encircle third hou, uh, third substitute house bill. 32.

Hey, this Bill, uh, was on the interim study list

Thank you. I presented this bill this morning. We just didn't have anybody on the floor so I circled it. But, um, this, uh, increases the cap on funds that the Utah Marriage Commission may receive from the online, online marriage license fees and then allows the rest of the money to go into the general fund. Does some other things I explained in my prior presentation, but with that I'll yield to any questions.

Yes. Okay.

I'll move that. Um, house bill 3 24. Be read for a third time. Thank You. And the question is,

Senator Vickers Baldy Lewin Brammer bus Colmore Escamilla Fillmore Grover Harper Kins Ipson Johnson. Juab McKay Mikel Aye. Milner Musman Owens pitcher Plum rebe sandal Aye. Stratton Aye. Vickers Aye. Weiler Aye. Wilson. Aye. Winterton President Adams Aye. House bill 3 24 Having received 22 yay votes. Zero nay votes. Seven being absent shall be read a third time.

Thank you Mr. President. Motion to table on third house bill 3 24 for fiscal impact. Thank you. I have a motion to table on third house Bill 3 24.

This increases the Utah Marriage Commission cap from 400 to 600,000 annually from online marriage license fees. This ensures a continued free online relationship resources for Utahns through the stronger marriage.org website, which had 160,000 visits, um, on the web just in January of this year. And once that cap is met, the remaining funds will go into the general fund. Um, the current fee fluctuations create a little bit of an instability for the Utah Marriage Commission staff support. Um, with that, I will, uh, yield to any questions.

Thank you. Under suspension of the rules, I move that, uh, house Bill 3 24 pass.

Thank you. So this bill establishes a location monitoring,