S.B. 47 Reauthorization of Administrative Rules: transcript

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Um, so I look at, uh, senate bill, uh, remind me the number again, I apologize. 47. Thank you. Senate Bill 47 is our annual rules reauthorization. Uh, until I was made the chair of the committee, I voted no on this bill many, many times, uh, just in protest. And I think that's how, uh, I think that's how I got put in charge of the committee as I voted no, uh, anyhow. Uh, but this is a general rules reauthorization, uh, where we authorize, uh, the administrative rules for the executive agencies. Um, in the bill. You'll notice there's a few sections that were taken out, uh, that are not reauthorized. And, uh, Doppel can, uh, come and talk if they'd like to, but they, they, uh, don't need to. But we used to have requirements throughout statute that said, we have a 2000 hour minimum requirement to, um, to have this job or, you know, to qualify for that license. And, uh, Representative Thurston, uh, went on a mission, removed them from statute, but there were still a few that were left in rule. And so, uh, there's a minimum requirement. And, and as part of that minimum requirement says 2000 hours, and no sooner than a year. Right? Well, 2000 hours means we care about the competency. We have no idea what the one year edition meant. And so now, if you can get 2000 hours before that year means ends for those professions that are in statute for those profession professions that the license is in rule or where that requirement is in rule, we are removing that subsection for, um, you know, for that component as it relates to, uh, as it replace, it relates to those various, uh, jobs and res, uh, or those licenses. With that, Mr. Chair, I'm, uh, Madam Chair, I'm happy to, um, uh, I'm happy to yield for questions.

Yeah, it's that part that I was talking about. The veterinary, the veterinary, uh, the burglar alarm, the elevator mechanic. And, uh, psychologists have their rule requirement in their, uh, in rule, uh, for the number of hours as it relates to licensure. And we're keeping it at the number of hours, but we're removing the time requirement. So just those four areas that are hit. Yep. Okay. Perfect.

Mark Steinle. I'm division Director of the Division of Professional Licensing. I would like to thank, uh, Representative Thurston and Senator McKay were neutral on the bill, but the process, I think was a good process. Um, last summer, Representative Thurston and legislative staff reached out to us and highlighted 10 rules for us where they found, um, as Senator McKay explained, where there's a minimum time to complete the number of hours. And, um, and so we all sent those rules. They gave us five months to work with our boards. We sent it to all of our boards that had those rules. Um, some of them changed them, some of them gave some explanation that a satisfied, um, Representative Thurston and others, and then some didn't. And so, um, we provided a report just before the session. And, um, and this is where it is. I doubt all of the professions are happy with eliminating those things, but I just want to thank the legislature for engaging with us and allowing us to seek advice and work with our board. So we're neutral on it, but I really appreciate working with the legislature on things like this. Thank you.

Yeah, I would move that we favorably recommend Senate Bill 47 sub one.

I'll waive All right.

Just thank the committee for their work on the, on all these bills. Thank you.

Um, happy to explain the difference. Um, go ahead. I'm just pulling up the Utah code section here real quick. In the qualifications for licensure, um, we ran a bill and this legislature passed a bill this last year that, um, that changed some of the requirements for licensure. Unfortunately, some of those qualifications, uh, that we were, the efforts to change them were actually found in administrative code and not just in state code. So we're amending out those provisions in administrative rules, uh, that were, that we thought were done in a bill last year.

Thank you Mr. President ProAm. Will the sponsor yield? Senator McKay, will you yield? Yes. Yes. Proceed? Yes. Thank you. It's just a clarifying question just to make sure I understood right. Uh, correctly, these five rules are not in code. Uh, and so this is why it has been pulled out of, uh, this bill. Is that correct?

Slightly different. Oh. Um, the, uh, as it relates to licensure, and I'm, I apologize. Uh, my, um, my brain is a little bit frozen at the moment. Um, but the, uh, as it relates to licensure, we changed it so that the experience requirements, uh, that were viewed consecutively can be viewed concurrently. When we changed that last year, some of them were in rule as opposed to somewhere in statute. So we did away with all the ones in statute, but we didn't do away with the ones in rule. So this will do away with those requirements in rule.

Okay. Thank you for the clarification.

Just, just really quick, I'm, I'm looking at, there's five different rules. It curious where, where these fit in the code and what, what they actually are.

Thank you. Um, great question. Uh, one of them has to do with, hang on just a second. Uh, one has to do with alarm companies, uh, and people that are, you know, monitoring alarm systems. Uh, that's two of those. The fifth one, hang on one second. Uh, let's see this one. Uh, the last one is an approved psychologist supervisor. Sorry, I didn't look very closely. Uh, we coordinated with Representative Thurston who, uh, who ran the bill last year to make these changes. And so, uh, making these changes, uh, in the administrative rule and pulling those parts out is just again, consistent with what we did in the prior bill.

Thank you. Uh, that's, I mean, I basically presented the, the crux of the bill we're reauthorizing all the administrative rules. Um, luckily as the, the chair of this, uh, as the chair of the Administrative Rules Committee, uh, we get this bill and we have to run it every year. Uh, if we don't, the governor has emergency provisions, so we always leave it out there. And fortunately, Representative Thurston uh, brought these licensing issues and that's the reason for the first sub. But otherwise, uh, that's the purpose of the bill and I'm happy to answer questions on the bill.

Thank you. I'll move that. Uh, first substitute Senate bill 47, be read for a third time.

We're passing these clear across, oh, under suspension Rules. Even better. So under suspension of rules, I move that first substitute Senate Bill 47 pass

Senator Vickers Baldry Lewin Aye. Bramer Bus Colmore. S Camia Aye. Fillmore Rober Aye. Harper Aye. Hankins Ipson Johnson. Aye. Juab McKay Aye. Mikel Milner Ipson Musman Owens Pitcher Lum Rebe Sandal Stevenson Stratton Vickers. Er Aye. Wilson Aye. Winterton, president Adams?

Communications from the House, Mr. President, the house passed. House Bill two new fiscal year Supplemental appropriations by Representative Peterson and it is transmitted for consideration. All of the following are transmitted for consideration by the way the house passed as substituted for substitute House Bill eight State Agency fees and Internal Service Fund authorization and appropriations by Representative Brooks. The house passed as substituted and amended. Second substitute House bill 180 3. Sex designation amendments by Representative Strong. The house passed House Bill 2 35. Income tax revisions by Representative Christofferson. The house passed as substituted and amended. First substitute House Bill five 90 Child Therapy amendments by Representative Daley Provo. The house passed as amended House Bill 5 97 Alcohol amendments by Representative Burton. The house passed as substituted third substitute House Bill 5 99. Social Services funding amendments by Representative Ward. The house passed as substituted. Second substitute house concurrent resolution. Nine. Concurrent resolution Addressing the Great Salt Lake by Representative Eliason. Respectfully signed, Edward Mueller, chief Clerk.