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S.B. 53 Public Land Management Advisory Board Amendments: transcript

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Senate Natural Resources, Agriculture, and Environment Committee, Jan 22, 2026

  1. Committee chair1:01:27

    We're gonna move, uh, on the agenda then to, let's see. Um, item number five on the agenda. SC 53, public Land Management advisory board amendment. Senator Kwan, uh, don't see any subs or amendments. Okay. So the time is yours.

  2. Sen. Karen Kwan1:01:49

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, we have a, uh, public land management advisory board that takes place if we, um, if 250,000 acres of public land is returned to us. Um, I actually was on a trip to Terrace, uh, Utah, which is an old railroad ghost town. Um, and right there, I think, in Senator Sandall district. Um, and, and it's on, um, federal BLM land. Um, and I was out there with Dr. Chris Merritt who's in the room, and we started talking about, um, you know, who are the stewards of this land and, and what would happen if we got this particular, I mean, I don't think it's a part of the law, the lawsuit, but, so we started talking about it and he said, oh, well, we have this advisory board. And I said, oh, great, because then you will be able to continue to work on. He said, well, you know what, I'm not on that committee. So we began to talk about are there people that should be on this committee? Should we, uh, get the, get some lands back? And I reached out to, uh, reg Johnson here. And, um, uh, he suggested, uh, both, uh, Shippo and, um, lan, if it's okay, Mr. Chair, I'd like to turn some time over to Mr. Johnson.

  3. Committee chair1:03:09

    Certainly.

  4. Redge Johnson, Executive Director, Utah Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office1:03:11

    Thank you, Senator. Um, chairs, committee members. It's great to be here with you today. My name is Raj Johnson, director of Utah's Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office. Um, appreciate the senator bringing this to our attention. And we work extensively with, uh, Shippo right now. Um, Chris Merrit has actually been, uh, the chair of our resource development coordinating council for the past year. Uh, our archeologist on staff works with his, works with Chris and his staff a a lot. Uh, they've been great to work with, and this does make sense. Um, you know, whenever we do have archeological, uh, resources or paleontological resources, we respect those. Uh, we want to treat them how they need to be treated. Um, but, you know, Chris's team also has helped us identify, you know, how we solve some of the issues when we run up, uh, against some of these issues. And they, so they've been really proactive, um, and they've just been phenomenal to work with. So very supportive there. And, um, for the director of SIT LI think that also makes a lot of sense. You know, a lot of these mineral plays, uh, TLA may have a, a parcel in the middle of a play, but the, the play includes a lot of the federal estate. So if we were to get some of these lands back, it makes sense, uh, for them to be at the table as well. So, uh, fully supportive of this. And we work with both agencies already extensively, and they're, they're great to work with. So we're supportive of Senator Quan's, bill.

  5. Committee chair1:04:35

    Great. Thank you, uh, uh, director, appreciate all the work you do in this, in this space and, and, uh, your foresight in looking at this bill. So, uh, does that conclude your presentation, Senator? It, it

  6. Sen. Karen Kwan1:04:47

    Does. Mr. Chair.

  7. Committee chair1:04:48

    Okay. Lemme bring that to the, uh, committee then if there's any clarifying questions. Senator Hinkins, go ahead.

  8. Sen. David P. Hinkins1:04:53

    Yeah, the only thing that would've impressed me more if you'd have done in in French. In in French, you've done your Presentation In French. Let me start over.

  9. Committee chair1:05:03

    Thanks, Senator. Okay. And no, no further, uh, questions from the committee. So we will open it to public. Is there any in the public who has come? Would like to speak to this bill? Ain't nobody in the room and no one online, so. Oh, I do have Senator Grover. I just, oh, thank you. You're coming back already. You're just ahead of me. Hang on there. I'll come back to you. We'll bring it back to the committee then. Um, for any, uh, action. Senator Grover?

  10. Sen. Keith Grover1:05:34

    Uh, yes. Thank you. Yeah, my motion to be, to pass out favorably SB 53.

  11. Committee chair1:05:39

    Okay. That, that motion's appropriate. I'll come back to you. Senator, do you like to sum? Oh,

  12. Sen. Keith Grover1:05:43

    I'll Waive. Thank you. Okay.

  13. Committee chair1:05:44

    Waive. And, um, so discussion to the motion to pass out Senate bill 53 from the committee, not seeing any discussion. So I'll place the motion. All in favor, uh, indicate by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? If any, say nay or will passage unanimously. Thank you for your work. Thank you. Practice your French. Yeah, next time will be expected. Senator Plumb. Is she close by?

Senate floor, Feb 3, 2026

  1. Sen. Karen Kwan25:07

    Um, so this is a bill that came about because I went on a trip to Terrace, as many of you know, that I often like to go out there. It's an old railroad ghost town. And I happen to, there's, there's a, another story that I'll tell another day, but it has to do with a flat tire and, um, some, uh, uh, dish soap. But, uh, turned out that I got into a car with our, um, state historic preservation officer and was talking about our, um, our, our public lands. Um, and I, I asked him about, uh, who takes care of our, our public lands, uh, if should we get some of the, uh, state, uh, sorry, some of the federal land back, uh, from the lawsuit that's going on right now. And he said, there is a public land management advisory board that takes place, as many of you already know, if we get 250,000 acres back. Um, and I said, oh, that's great because then you'll be part of that advisory board and, you know, can help take care of our lands. And he said, actually, I'm not. So I had a conversation with Reg, uh Johnson and, um, worked out this bill that, uh, we're adding the state Historic Preservation Officer, um, and the, uh, tla, uh, director of tla, uh, to the Public Land Management Advisory Board. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you for the presentation.

  2. President Adams (presiding)26:41

    Do we have discussion to this bill? Senator Harper.

  3. Sen. Wayne A. Harper26:47

    Thank you. Uh, we'll sponsor yield through Questions. Senator Kwan, will you yield? Yes.

  4. Sen. Karen Kwan26:51

    Thank you. Senator Harper.

  5. Sen. Wayne A. Harper26:53

    Um, the addition of these two, uh, positions, what value and benefit to the add to this that is not already on the existing committee? Senator Kwan? Thank you, Mr.

  6. Sen. Karen Kwan27:06

    President for the question. Uh, the State historic Preservation officer, uh, and, and the office does much of the cultural, um, anthropological work as well as, uh, the, um, uh, the work of the, there is a word here of the person who, uh, not an architect, but anyways, uh, they do, uh, most of the work in the state. And so what that would do with the state historic preservation officers to ensure that the, uh, exploration and the digs of these sites, uh, should they come to be our, uh, in, in line with our, uh, state, um, uh, guidelines. Uh, the ctla uh, administration, the director of ctla, uh, Mr. Johnson had recommended because of many of these lands, uh, are adjacent to, or, um, that used to be part of TLA lands. And so he thought that that would be a good addition as well. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

  7. President Adams (presiding)28:16

    Senator Harper. Other discussion of the bill? Senator Kwan, I don't see any, so I'm going to you for summation and a motion.

  8. Sen. Karen Kwan28:29

    Thank you, Mr. President. I waive summation and move that, uh, SB 53, be read for a third time.

  9. President Adams (presiding)28:37

    Thank you. And the question is, shall Senate bill, Senate bill 53 be read a third time? Roll call vote.

  10. Unknown speaker28:43speaker not certain

    Senator Vickers Baldry. Lewin Aye. Brammer Bus Comore Escamilla Fillmore. Senator Fillmore Oh Harper Pinkens Ipson Johnson. Juab McKay. Mikel Milner Musselman Owens Pitcher Plum Rebe Sandal Stevenson Stratton Bickers Weiler Wilson. No. Winterton Re Aye. Weiler President Adams No. Senate Bill 53. Having received 10 yay votes. 16 yay votes three Being absent fails to pass and order.

  11. President Adams (presiding)30:24

    Return to the staff for filing.

  12. President Adams (presiding)30:34

    Senator Owens.