S.B. 205 Law Enforcement Artificial Intelligence Amendments: transcript

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I do have a sub online that I will need to adopt at some point, but I'll present to that sub. I may. Okay. So,

I'll move it now if I can do that. Sub substitute one, please. Alright.

Thank you, uh, Mr. Chair. This bill addresses the way that law enforcement engages with AI technology to generate reports. And one of the things you're seeing with the sub is, um, some clarity around, uh, that exact process with generative AI in reports. Um, this body passed a bill either last year or two years ago, dealing with officers disclosing whether they're using AI in their police reports, um, since that bill passed, and with further dialogue among, uh, stakeholders in particular, particularly attorneys who appear in court, um, it's, I think it's become clear that some additional transparency is probably helpful. We're in a new era of engaging with AI in, in the courts in a way that has not been present previously. Um, and so what this bill does is it asks, uh, requires some, a level of transparency among police, uh, agencies that use these AI tools to generate their police reports. And so the most common tool is called, uh, axon Draft One. Um, and there are certain features that Axon includes in its, um, in its tools to law enforcement to sh to ensure against inaccuracies. Um, so it does things like, um, it will have a feature that, uh, requests or prompts for additional information if the technology picks up on maybe some, uh, some items that are not clear. Um, it will also add blanks throughout the report and have the officers fill that in. And then of course, uh, there can be a requirement for proofreading and then officers to sign off on that, but that those provisions can also be sidestepped. And so the bill, uh, essentially requires some transparency about what safeguards are used, which I think will help, uh, I think it's right for the public to know this information, but also helps attorneys better engage with this data. And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you. Um,

Thank you, chair committee, uh, Nate Mutter coming to you as the chair of the Law Enforcement Legislative Committee. Just wanted to take, uh, a moment to thank Senator Pitcher for, uh, for listening to our concerns on the, on the first draft and working with us, uh, to get to the, uh, the substitute. Um, the substitute just got released today. Um, law enforcement will be able to take a look at that and, uh, hopefully provide some more feedback, uh, if there, if there is any. And, and I know Senator Pictures always great to work with and just wanted to, um, recognize that, appreciate, I don't know, She's always great to work with, but whatever, most of the time, most of the time, I agree with that most of the time.

Uh, yes, Steve Burton representing the, representing the Utah Defense Attorney Association. Um, AI has been a tricky technology for us as defense attorneys to try to figure out and understand. There's a lot of people who've been practicing for 20, 30 years, and they're trying to understand when they're reading a police report that they've been reading for 30 years, how much of it now is human generated and how much of it is AI generated? And that's a scary thing as a defense attorney to figure out exactly the types of things that are important or not important. So we also appreciate the efforts of Senator Pitcher to try to, uh, help clarify the types of tools that are being used and help us as defense attorneys make sure we understand the facts that are included in a police report. Um, we, we hope that the police reports that we're getting are, uh, completely accurate, but I've used AI a lot and sometimes it makes mistakes. So, uh, we're hoping that this will help us, uh, identify those concerns and the areas where maybe the information is inaccurate or might have problems. And hopefully this is a step in the right direction. Thank you. I, I like to say AI gives me a good first draft, but not a good final draft. So, um, thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would move that we pass SB 2 0 5 out with a favorable recommendation to the full body of the Senate.

Uh, just final motion. I move the Senate adjourn until Wednesday, February 25th at 10:00 AM

This bill provides, um, some transparency requirements regarding the ways in which artificial intelligence is used in the generation of investigative police reports. Happy to answer any questions.

Thank you. My, I move that first substitute Senate bill 2 0 5 pass.

Senator Pitcher. Thank you Mr. President Pro. Uh, we just discuss, discussed this bill and I forgot to move a sub. So I'd like to make that motion that we, uh, replace entitle in the body for substitute Senate bill 2 0 5 and replace it with second substitute Senate bill 2 0 5. And will you explain the difference then? Yes. The difference is, uh, this incorporates some changes from LELC to ensure that the policy applies to narrative reports and not other, not other types of AI technology that may be used by law enforcement.

A motion to circle second substitute 2205.

We did, uh, I believe we did adopt a sub. Yes. Um, what the sub did was just, um, incorporate some, some feedback from LELC to ensure that this policy applies to narrative reports and not other types of AI technology that law enforcement officers use. Um, so with that, I'm happy to answer any questions.

Thank you Mr. President Prote. I did circle a bill because of a fiscal note that you appointed as president Pro temp last yesterday and I think that fiscal note is available. So with that I'll make a motion to encircle sb first substitute SB 180. The motion is to uncer first substitute Senate Bill 180.

Happy to answer any questions I've presented on it.

Thank you. I move that second substitute Senate bill 2 0 5 pass And the motion is shall second substitute Senate bill two oh five pass roll call vote.

HB Yeah. Motion to encircle HB one first substitute HB one 17.

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Call the question of Mr. President Pro. The question is, shall first substitute House Bill one 17 pass roll call vote.