Bills / S.B. 297
S.B. 297 School Social Worker Amendments
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- Senate committee
- Senate vote
- House committee (stopped here)
- House vote
- Signed into law
What this bill does
This bill changes state school law's definitions of school staff who provide mental health services, replacing broad 'other' counselor, social worker, and psychologist categories with specific job titles and required credentials. The latest version also adds credential language requested by the State Board of Education and creates no new program or funding.
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Official description
- amends a definition related to personnel providing health and counseling support to a student
- requires the State Board of Education to provide certain guidance based on requirements the Division of Professional Licensing sets
- makes technical and conforming changes
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Every vote
- 5 yes, 0 no, 2 absentSenate Education Committee: vote to change the bill · Feb 19, 2026Who voted how
- 3 yes, 2 no, 2 absentSenate Education Committee: vote to approve it · Feb 19, 2026Who voted how
- 29 yes, 0 noFirst of two Senate votes · Feb 26, 2026Who voted how
- 26 yes, 0 no, 3 absentFinal Senate vote · Feb 27, 2026Who voted how
Hearings and debates
- Feb 19, 2026 Senate Education Committee▶ Watch
Transcript (18 turns)
- Committee chair1:49:53
Senator Buss, you're next. And then Representative Defay, you'll be right after that. So, Senator Johnson, I have appropriations. Sure. Okay. So she has, Okay. So SP 2 97 social, uh, school social worker amendments, uh, represent Senator Bus.
- Sen. Emily Buss1:50:43
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, there is a substitute online and I would like to speak to that.
- Committee chair1:50:50
Okay. So can someone move that substitute? Go ahead, Senator Riebe.
- Sen. Riebe1:50:55
So moved. Okay. So, uh, the motion is to delete entitled body SB 2 97 and replace it with first substitute second SB 2 97 substitute.
- Unknown speaker1:51:08speaker not certain
Oh, it's a substitute. It's, it is a substitute, right? It's, yeah. We only have substitute one online. There's only substitute one online. Okay. Do you have a different substitute? I got an email that it was released. Okay. So did you have two different ones?
- Sen. Emily Buss1:51:27
Yeah. Substitute one just changed one word to another word that the attorney caught, uh, substitute.
- Committee chair1:51:36
Okay. Why don't you go ahead and present this, and then we will, uh, then we'll move the substitute when it comes up.
- Sen. Emily Buss1:51:43
Okay. So, sorry. Do what did you want me to do? Yeah, Go ahead. Okay.
- Sen. Emily Buss1:51:50
Um, yeah, so substitute one, the drafting attorney just accidentally used the wrong word for one word and switched it. Um, and then, uh, so this bill is a technical correction to improve clarity and cl and clearly delineate the specific roles and professional credentials included under qualifying personnel, all of which are positions that are currently funded. Um, so after SB 26 expanded the scope of practice for multiple roles in 2024, the qualifying personnel statute was not updated. Um, and this bill aligns the language with that change. And then, so, uh, sub two, um, is from the USBE got back to us right after the bill was numbered and asked us to add, um, even more technical language to clearly state which credentials, uh, each role would need because, uh, SB 26 was too broad in that, in that sense. Okay. And that concludes my presentation. Okay.
- Committee chair1:53:02
We're gonna come back to the committee for clarifying questions. Seeing none, we'll go to members of the audience. Anyone want to speak to this Bill? State your name for the record and tell us who you represent, which we already know, but that's all right. That's for the record. I just love To say it all.
- Elise Newey, Deputy Superintendent of Policy, USBE1:53:25
Elise Newey, deputy Superintendent of Policy for USBE. I just wanted to thank the sponsor publicly, um, for working with us. This is something that we have a lot of confusion communicated to us from our LEAs about who qualifies and who doesn't. And we feel like this really clears it up. So we're just grateful for her collaboration. The board has not taken an official vote on this bill, but as staff, we're grateful for the technical support. So, thank you.
- Committee chair1:53:52
Any other comments? Go ahead. We'll come back to the committee, uh, for clarifying questions. And action. Senator Riebe, go ahead.
- Sen. Riebe1:54:26
Thank you. We, are we looking for a motion or just Yeah. Or, okay. Uh, I would like to send out senate bill 2 97 as a substitute two. One. It's one. Okay. So let's move. I was wrong. Let's, let's move sub substitute one. One. Yeah, it was one. I was wrong.
- Committee chair1:54:41
Okay. So, uh, so do you wanna make that motion? Yes, please. Okay. So the motion is to delete and title embody SB 2 97. Replace it for first substitute SB 2 97 Social Worker amendments. Any discussion of that motion? Seeing none. Uh, all in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair rules? That is, huh? Your opposed to substitute the motion. Okay. So the motion is to substitute unanimous. So the chair rules, that is unanimous. Okay.
- Committee chair1:55:18
So, uh, do you wanna make another motion? Yes, go ahead. Senator Riebe.
- Sen. Riebe1:55:24
Thank you. I'd like to make a motion to send Senate bill 2 97 sub one Social work school social worker amendments out with favorable recommendation. Okay, so that motion is appropriate. Any discussion of that motion? Seeing none. We're gonna come back to you to some, Um, I would just like to conclude by thanking you for your time and, um, respectfully ask for your support.
- Committee chair1:55:53
Okay. So the motion is to send out, uh, first substitute, uh, SP 2 97 social, uh, school social worker amendments with favorable recommendation. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. No. Aye, you an aye. Okay. Okay. Fillmore voting against, so it's, it's three to two with Fillmore and Baldry, uh, against, so it passes.
- Committee chair1:56:33
Okay. Thank you. Congratulations.
- Feb 26, 2026 Senate floor debate▶ Watch
Transcript (5 turns)
- Sen. J. Stuart Adams (presiding)1:12:52
Will let Motion passes. The bill is Uncircled. Senator Bus.
- Sen. Emily Buss1:12:56
Um, so this is, um, a code cleanup I was working on with, uh, USBE and it just aligns the USBE statute with, um, some changes that were made when SB 26 expanded the scope of practice for certain behavioral health professionals in 2024. Um, so it removed, uh, the vague classification of other counselor, other social worker, and other psychologist, and then it has their clear titles listed with reference to, uh, the certifications. And that concludes my presentation.
- Sen. J. Stuart Adams (presiding)1:13:38
Thank you. Senator Buss. Looking for discussion. See no discussion. I am gonna go to you for a motion. I, I called a question. Thank you. And the question is, shall first substitute Senate Bill 2 97? Be read a third time. Roll call vote. Senator Vickers Baldry. Lewin Brammer. Yes. Bus Colmore. Aye. Escamilla Aye. Fillmore Aye. Grover Aye. Harper. Aye. Kins. Aye. Ipson. Aye. Johnson Juab McKay. Mikel Milner Musselman Owens Cher Plum Rebe Sandal Stevenson Stratton Bickers Weiler Aye. Wilson Aye. Winter. Aye. Winterton President Adams Aye. First substitute Senate Bill 2 97, having received 29 yay votes. Zero nay votes, zero being absent. Shall read a third time?
- Sen. J. Stuart Adams (presiding)1:14:47
Senator Bust. You wanna encircle another bill?
- Sen. J. Stuart Adams (presiding)1:15:11
Let me call that again. The motion is done. Circle second. Substitute Senate bill 180 9 School District funding amendments. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Or that motion passes. The bill is un Circle Senator Bus.
- Feb 27, 2026 Senate floor debate▶ Watch
Transcript (16 turns)
- Sen. Emily Buss28:29
Okay. This is just a, uh, code clarification and I presented everything yesterday, so I think I'm good. So I call the question,
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)28:39
Okay. Let me see. It's their discussion to this bill.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)28:44
Seeing none. Senator Bus back to you for a motion. I call the question The question is, shall first substitute Senate bill two ninety seven passed? Roll call vote.
- Unknown speaker28:53speaker not certain
Senator Vickers Spery Lu in Bramer bus Aye. Colmore Aye. Escamia Fillmore Grover Harper Aye. Kins Aye. Ipson Ipson Aye. Johnson Juab McKay Mikel Milner Musman Owens pitcher Plum re. Sandal Aye. Stevenson Stratton Aye. Vickers Aye. Weiler Aye. Wilson Winterton,
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)29:53
president Adams First substitute Senate Bill 2 97 Having received 26 yay votes, zero na votes, three being absent passed as a Senate be sent to the house for further consideration.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)30:09
Third substitute Senate bill 180 9. Third substitute Senate bill 180 9 School District funding amendments. Senator bus, Senator bus.
- Sen. Emily Buss30:19speaker not certain
Motion to circle. Okay.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)30:21
Motion to circle All in favor of the motion to circle, say aye. Aye. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? A rule that passes The bill is circled.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)30:36
First substitute house bill 2 58. First Substitute house bill 2 58, insurance coverage amendments. Senator McKay.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)30:45
Senator Wilson. Motion to circle sponsors off the floor. All in favor of the motion to circle, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? I'll rule that passes. The bill is circled
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)30:58
for substitute Senate bill 1 74 Fourth substitute Senate bill 1 74. Exercise of religious beliefs and conscience amendments. Senator Stratton. Senator Stratton.
- Sen. Keven J. Stratton31:11
Thank you Mr. President Tim birthday boy. Uh, appreciate the opportunity to, I think we need to circle this. We're waiting on the fiscal note, but thank you.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)31:23
That's a good call. All in favor of the motion to circle, say aye. Aye. And impose that passes that bill as likewise circled till friendly fiscal note follows up. Senator Mikel.
- Sen. Michael K. McKell31:41
Thank you Mr. President pro tem. Motion to encircle senate bill 2 87.
- Sen. Michael K. McKell31:47
Got the amendment online now That is a good thing.
- Senate President J. Stuart Adams (presiding)31:51
All in favor of the motion to Uncer Senate bill 2 87 targeted advertising tax. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Andy Opposed?
- Mar 3, 2026 House Business, Labor, and Commerce Committee
- Mar 4, 2026 House Business, Labor, and Commerce Committee▶ Watch
Transcript (51 turns)
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:15:46
SB 2 97, first substitute. And, uh, Representative Hayes, you're gonna present
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:15:52speaker not certain
for Senator Buss, right? Sure Am.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:15:57
Go ahead when you're ready. All right.
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:16:01
Thank you Mr. Chair and committee for having me today. Um, like I said, I'm not Senator Bus, but I'm gonna do my best impersonation. Um, so we'll see what we got. So, SB 2 97, um, is a technical correction. Two years ago, the legislature expanded the scope of, um, like, of the definition of student health, um, counseling within schools. So when we made that change, um, it, it put in some vague titles. So if you look on lines 34 and 35, which are, are currently crossed out, they've got qualifying personnel means a school counselor or other counselor, a school psychologist or other psychologist, a school social worker, or other social worker and other, that, that word other is confusing because we don't know what that means. So this bill is saying what that means. So we just have that consistency in code. And with Doppel, since they're the ones doing the licensing, um, I wanna emphasize that the changes that are being made, um, for the roles are roles that already exist in school settings. These are already the people that we have working in our LEAs. Um, we're just clarifying and defining it in code so that we have that consistently. So this is not creating a new program. This is not asking for new funding. This is just making a technical correction to make sure we're being accurate in our code. With that, I'm open to questions, but please be nice 'cause I didn't write this. Thank you. Okay.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:17:31
We'll bring it to the committee for clarifying questions. Representative Kyle.
- Rep. Jason B. Kyle1:17:41
Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chair. What, why are we adding interns in, in, in this bill? Sure. So this isn't, this is again, trying to capture the people that are already working. So there are intern roles that work in school. So, um, if you're in the process of getting a degree, you might have to intern as as part of that. So that's why it's, it's stated. Thank you. Mm-hmm. Okay.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:18:09
Any other clarifying questions? Okay, we'll go to the public. Anybody from the public would like to speak to this Bill? Anybody line? Okay. Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the committee for further action and further discussion.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:18:33
Representative Teuscher?
- Rep. Thomas Teuscher1:18:35
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'll, I'll try to be nice. I I kind of wish the original sponsors here 'cause um, I've got some, some serious concerns with the bill. Um, some of the information that I've received recently, um, for, from those that have worked on this policy in the past, um, both within the legislature and outside the legislature, have, have said that they believe that these changes will actually lower the professional standards for school mental health services. Um, by expanding these, these personnel to different groups like interns, um, and others who may have less specialized training in school-based assessments, intervention and crisis response. Um, also it seems to create an incentive to substitute the lower, uh, cost staff for the licensed mental health professionals that the original, um, intent of the policy was working towards. And so, um, because districts can use state funds to hire these roles, it may discourage them hiring some of the fully trained school psychologists or school social workers or counselors in place of what's here. So I don't know if you could respond to that or, or help leave some of my concerns on this.
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:19:47
Yeah, I'd be happy to. Um, and I'll do my best, but my understanding is that this is, the goal of this bill is to reflect what's already happening. So it's so that we're getting reality in line with our code and, and vice versa. There's been a lot of work the last few years to make sure that, that the most trained and qualified people that we have in these roles aren't doing like the day-to-day. So if you're, if you go to a doctor's office, you're gonna have a, a tech first who goes in and goes over your charts with you and you might see a nurse before you get to the doctor. And so that's, that's pretty intentionally being handled right now. So I I have not heard any of those concerns or see that concern with the, just trying to hire at the lower level because we need people at all levels to, to safely and accurately handle these issues. Um, I would be happy to discuss it more with you or with the sponsor, but my understanding is every role that is being delineated in this bill are roles that are already working in our schools.
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:20:49
And if, if I could ask another question. Yes, Mr. Chair, in terms of the interns, I don't think they're receiving funding under the current statute. Right. So this does expand it to different groups of people then we're currently covered underneath this bill. And then, you know, some of these other ones, like the clinical mental health counselors, the marriage and family therapists, um, and some of the others, those, those would not fit under the current definition of the statute of a, um, school psychologist, uh, school social worker or a school counselor. Can, can you speak to that?
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:21:26
Which, which part? Sorry, I got lost the sponsor texting Me. Yeah, no, it's, uh, Um, she said in, in case you, I, Senator Bus has texted me, she says, interns already do this work, but if it's a concern, we're open to amendments. So, fun fact, if anybody has concerns with the interns, uh, I have permission to work with the committee on amending that. Um, and then can you get back to your, the rest of your question? 'cause I am a little bit,
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:21:48
Well, just that, I mean, talking about it, it sounds like the presentation that you came in is, Hey, we're not really changing anything. We're just clarifying what this really meant. But the way I read this is this actually expands to a bunch of other groups of licensing that really wasn't the intent of this legislation. And that's the concerns that I'm hearing from people about this bill. Okay. And what were the line numbers specifically with The, so it would be like, um, in line, uh, 62, in line 64, um, in line, uh, 55.
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:22:25
Those are all, I, I don't think any of those would fit under the current definition of what you see in line 34 of a school counselor, a school psychologist, a school social worker. I mean, that's where the other comes in the or other psychologist or other social worker or other counselor. 'cause right now that sort of bucket is capturing all of those titles already with the others.
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:22:48
Yeah, I, I guess I just disagree. I don't think that a marriage and family therapist, for example, would fit under the soc other social worker. I don't think they're considered a social worker in any respect.
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:22:59
That's fair. But I mean, they are an other counselor Or other counselor. Yeah.
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:23:03
Um, really fast though on that. Um, specifically with 63, the clinical mental health counselor. I, I, that is a pretty common role in these situations. Just, I know I'm not, again, I'm not sure on the family one, but that one is. So Thank you.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:23:18
Thank you. Uh, RSO Matthews.
- Rep. Andrew Stoddard1:23:22speaker not certain
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'd like to make a motion that we pass out this bill favorably, and I'd like to speak to that if I May. We're not to that part, Part. Oh, but then in that case, I would just like to tell you that I really like this bill, but also, um, I think we've had a lot of discussions in this committee, particularly, um, addressing the burnout in this space in social workers and in mental health counselors, especially in school settings. We know that our kids are struggling with mental health and we need more people available to assist them. Um, as far as the interns go, I, I know that, that a good friend and colleague at the end of the table had expressed some concerns. But because of the high burnout in these fields, um, if we aren't giving opportunity for, um, for other people to intern and to kind of apprentice, um, under the 'cause online, um, 44 licensed or working under a qualified personnel as an intern, that's how we are going to get new workers into this space by putting them in settings and, and, um, learning from, um, getting their, you know, whatever their required hours are in order to get that license. Um, and to do that in a supervised way in the setting that they will ultimately end up being in. Um, so I think, I think this is smart by adding definitions and, and being, um, intentional with, with how and, um, who are in these spaces and how we are continuing to build the bench and make sure that there are, um, more people to, to fill these positions as, um, as burnout happens and as, as people retire and move on. So, Representative, I was the one out of order, you were in order, so if you would like to make your motion.
- Rep. Ashlee Matthews1:25:11
Well,
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:25:12
Apology accepted and, uh, yes.
- Rep. Ashlee Matthews1:25:15
I would stand by my original motion to pass out favorably the first substitute of SB 2 97. And I guess you spoke to that motion. I sure did. Okay.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:25:25
Alright. So we have a motion to pass for the favorable recommendation SB 2 97. First substitute. Uh, any discussion to that motion?
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:25:37
Uh, Representative Ballard.
- Rep. Melissa G. Ballard1:25:39
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'm also in favor of that. I just wanna have a couple of comments. Number one, every one of those professions require a minimum of a master's degree. So this is not, um, below bachelor's or just a certification. They're all master's degree, um, recipients. And then to my knowledge, the intern, the qualified personnel as an intern has a lot to do with the Grow Your Own program that the schools have for these professionals. Uh, that they are able their senior year as part of their internship to, to finish their diploma, uh, their master's degree, that they can go in as a paid intern, um, and work in the schools. So I think that's why I'm in favor of this, is the qualifications of a master's program within these all within these fields, um, that have to do with all that. Every one of them have some kind of training in mental, behavioral health, um, uh, and are specifically trained for schools. I think that's why, uh, the, perhaps the comment that's, that already facilitating a lot of this with within the schools. Um, but that the qualified personnel as an intern, uh, to my knowledge is actually the Grow Your Own program. And usually when they have that internship at the school, they are, they are hired on and continue on. So it is, is not just a high school intern, um, because they would not be qualified or even a college intern. It would be part of their, um, qualified, uh, qualifications of nearly completing their, their degree. So I'm in favor of this.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:27:32
Thank you Representative Dunnigan.
- Rep. James A. Dunnigan1:27:34
Thank you. So I, I too speak in favor of the motion. I I, I did have a concern when I first read this and saw an intern, but I know how difficult it's time at times to fill this space in a school and to represent Ballard's point. These are some licensed professionals that are, they're adding and broadening the pool. And, and this committee's generally been about lets people, you know, have the opportunity to do the skills that they're trained for. And you have already on the list, you have a school social worker or other social worker, and now we're adding these master level skills. Uh, and so I, I think it's a good thing to do. It gives them more a broader pool to, to draw from.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:28:19
Great. Thank you Representative Thurston.
- Rep. Paul A. Cutler1:28:22speaker not certain
Thank you. I'm gonna speak against the motion. Um, this ties back to House Bill 2 81 that we passed last year. We had a carefully crafted bill last year to define a lot of things, but one of those was who are, who are we actually allowing to provide services to our children in the schools? And there was a lot of discussion about that one. And the way I see that is this Bill steps heavily into that space and, um, you know, therapy and interns are just not on that list when we did HB 2 81 last year. So it's not, not clear to me why we would allow grant money to pay for people who aren't actually legally allowed to provide those services. Now if the question is, well, we want them to be allowed to provide the services, well now we're re renegotiating out Bill 2 81. That'd be the other reason why I wouldn't support the bill either. We're, we're, we're either of those paths that we're gonna go down does not seem to me to be a good path. Um, at least not at this time in, in this, in this forum.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:29:19
Thank you representative tester. Yeah,
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:29:24
I'll just add my, my comments to that. I, I think I still have some concerns that have already been addressed either by my comments before or Representative Thurston's. But I, I think too, we gotta remember that here we're talking about a limited pool of funds, um, that, that we can draw on. And so, um, if we're prioritizing how those funds are gonna be used, I'd rather prioritize them for the psychologists, for those that are specialized in this type of space with schools and not in interns and not marriage and family therapists or, or other types of groups. And I just think this needs a little bit more work.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:30:01
Thank you. Okay. Any other discussion? All right. I don't see any other discussion. The motion is to pass with a favorable recommendation,
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:30:16
SB 2 97, first substitute, go to the, uh, sponsor.
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:30:23
Thank you. Um, thank you for the lively back and forth. I do appreciate it, even if it puts me on my toes sometimes. Um, thank you to Representative Thurston for bringing up House Bill 2 81. I did pull it up and you're correct, it does not touch interns, but you know what it does say in 2 81, um, from mental health services, it includes a school psychologist, a school social worker, um, marriage and family therapist, a clinical mental health counselor. So it, it does, it does tie in to what this bill is doing. Um, the, the bill sponsor has been very clear with me that she is happy to potentially take out the intern language. I personally like it for reasons stated by Representative Ballard, and I think she added very good clarity to that. But this is not a sticking point for her. And so, like I, on behalf of the sponsor, commit to the committee that she is very willing and open to work on that language. She's been very clear in communicating that to me. This is largely, this is largely technical cleanup. I I don't really want other social workers or other counselors. I want to know who is taking care of people and who is taking care of our kids. I wanna make sure that they're qualified. I wanna make sure, as Representative Ballard pointed out that it is people that have the necessary training in this bill, make sure that we have the necessary training, or that if it's someone in training that they're under a qualified personnel. And again, this is already happening. All these people listed are already working in schools. So I, I really appreciate the motion to favorably recommend. I would love to have the committee support and I would love to talk to you after if you don't, for whatever reason, so we can keep working on it.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:32:01
Okay. Representative Ivory.
- Rep. Ken Ivory1:32:04
Thank you. I'd like to reserve the right to make a motion. Um, I'm looking at House Bill 2 81 and it says, the authorized person means an individual who holds a license and the license that it describes. And then it says, or whom an individual described above supervises to the extent the individual's actions fall within the scope of services. And I'm thinking, is that not an intern? If it's saying an individual whom that person supervises, I'm, I'm just curious who that's getting at if it's not an intern or an employee or, or something of that nature. I, I, I, I guess I'm not seeing the distinction, but if the sponsor is amenable and the, the sticking point is the intern, I guess the motion I would make would be to, on line 44, strike from license to Representative of it would be a substitute motion. Okay. We're currently in a motion. Sure. Fair enough. Then I'd, I'd make a substitute motion then to, uh, pass out. Can I do that? How do I do an amendment as a substitute motion? Substitute motion. Okay. So substitute motion to amend then on line 44 to strike from or working under the qualified personnel as an intern to the semi. And so then it would just read who is licensed and collaborates. And if, if, if that seems to be the sticking point, I'd make that motion, uh, for the consideration of the sponsor. Okay. So the motion is to on line 44 strike or working through intern?
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:33:54
Correct. Okay. So we'll go to the, uh, sponsor for
- Rep. Sahara Hayes1:34:00
That is a friendly amendment. I would, I'd be curious if that would alleviate some of the concerns of my colleagues. If so, then I think we're happy to make that change.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:34:08
Okay. So any other discussion? Representative Thurston go To discussion? Yes, so go to Representative Matthews who made the underlying motion.
- Rep. Ashlee Matthews1:34:23
Um, I, I'll leave it up to the committee, but I, I, if we wanna keep billing the bench, so to speak, and, and making sure that, that, uh, the people that are going to school to, to fulfill these requirements if we're not giving them the opportunities to get the, the clinical hours and the, the studying hours that we require them to get in order to obtain their license. Uh, I don't know. I, whatever. Whatever you want.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:34:49
Thank you. Okay. So we're in discussion on the substitute motion Representative Thurston.
- Rep. Paul A. Cutler1:34:57speaker not certain
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So I will take others' comments at face value and ask you this question. Then if you take out interns. Do you have any bill left? So I'm thinking either way. I mean, I don't, I don't support the bill with the interns in, if you take the interns out, the bill doesn't do anything. And I'm not real excited about bills that don't do anything, especially not on day 43. So, Yeah.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:35:24
Okay. Thank you. Representative Peterson. Representative Peterson.
- Rep. Peterson1:35:30speaker not certain
Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Uh, is there anyone on lines 52 through 66? It's not licensed. Does, does it even make sense to have line 44 at all? If we're going to, I just don't understand why we'd leave in is licensed if everybody that's a qualified personnel under the list below is already licensed. Is that a question for me or Prob? Probably. Okay. I believe everybody there is licensed. However, I would not want to, um, make that as a declarative statement without drafting attorney's, uh, input. And I don't know if it's possible if this is an appropriate time to rep, address representative Thurston's comments or would that be later? Let's just wait till you sum. Perfect. Thanks.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:36:23
We'll, we'll come back to you. Okay. Any other discussions? So the motion, the substitute motion is to on line 44 strike or working through intern.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:36:43
And we're still in discussion. Representative Tesser,
- Rep. Jordan D. Teuscher1:36:46
I'd just like to make a motion to adjourn. Can we do that? Okay. So we have a motion,
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:36:57
It's a privileged motion that can be made at any Time. Yeah, it's a pr it's a privileged motion. So it's, it, it is an order. So that's non debatable. All in favor for adjournment? Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. No. No. Okay. So we'll do a roll call vote. This is on the motion to adjourn Representatives. Ballard? No. Dunnigan, no. Ivory, no. Matthews, no. When? No. Peterson? No. Sawyer? Yes. Tuscher? Yes. Thurston? Yes. White. Yes. Wilcox? Yes. Chair Malloy. Yes. Chair Kyle? Yes.
- Unknown speaker1:37:53speaker not certain
Horse race adjourned. Seven six. Adjourned.
- Chair Maloy (presiding)1:38:04
Okay, so the, uh, the motion passes so we are adjourned. Okay. The, no, were, uh, Representative Ballard, Dunnigan Ivory, Matthews, GW and, uh, Peterson we're adjourn. Thank you.
- Unknown speaker1:38:27speaker not certain
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